{"id":4860,"date":"2015-10-20T12:58:36","date_gmt":"2015-10-20T12:58:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/?p=4860"},"modified":"2015-10-20T13:01:43","modified_gmt":"2015-10-20T13:01:43","slug":"arch-svabova-architekti-o-marsmelounu-opravdu-hrozne-ne-at-to-rychle-postavi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/?p=4860","title":{"rendered":"Arch. \u0160v\u00e1bov\u00e1 &#8211; Architekti o \u201eMar\u0161melounu\u201c: Opravdu hrozn\u00e9. Ne, a\u0165 to rychle postav\u00ed"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"pvc_stats total_only \" data-element-id=\"4860\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> &nbsp;1,005&nbsp;total views<\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>P\u0159etiskujeme koment\u00e1\u0159 <a href=\"http:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/?page_id=3014\">pan\u00ed architektky \u0160v\u00e1bov\u00e9<\/a>\u00a0k \u010dl\u00e1nku\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/praha.idnes.cz\/marsmeloun-nazory-architektu-dk6-\/praha-zpravy.aspx?c=A151008_160728_domaci_mav\">Architekti o \u201eMar\u0161melounu\u201c: Opravdu hrozn\u00e9. Ne, a\u0165 to rychle postav\u00ed.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/kolaz.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3671\" alt=\"kolaz\" src=\"http:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/kolaz-300x110.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"110\" srcset=\"https:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/kolaz-300x110.jpg 300w, https:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/kolaz.jpg 845w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>K \u00favodu<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kdo jsou na\u0161i p\u0159edn\u00ed architekti, co je jim spole\u010dn\u00e9? \u2013 P\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm to, \u017ee v\u0161ichni pracuj\u00ed pro developery. Je zn\u00e1m\u00e1 pravda, \u017ee kvalitn\u00ed architektura m\u016f\u017ee vzniknout pouze tehdy, je-li osv\u00edcen\u00fd investor. \u2013 M\u00e1me osv\u00edcen\u00e9 developery, nebo zde jde pouze o podnikatele, kter\u00e9 p\u0159itahuje kr\u00e1sa trvale atraktivn\u00edho pra\u017esk\u00e9ho historick\u00e9ho j\u00e1dra, proto\u017ee p\u0159edpokl\u00e1daj\u00ed, \u017ee jim zde jejich investice p\u0159inese v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed zisk? Jde jim o zachov\u00e1n\u00ed kulturn\u00edch a historick\u00fdch hodnot, nebo tu \u2013 jako spr\u00e1vn\u00ed byznysmeni &#8211; cht\u011bj\u00ed m\u00edt p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm nep\u0159ehl\u00e9dnutelnou stavbu ve stylu reklamn\u00edho designu?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ke koment\u00e1\u0159i architekta Pleskota<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed je podep\u0159eno pouze \u201eautoritou\u201c architekta Pleskota a autora projektu. Argumenty vesm\u011bs chyb\u00ed. D\u016fm nevy\u010dn\u00edv\u00e1, kdy\u017e p\u0159esahuje o 11,5m fas\u00e1du navazuj\u00edc\u00ed historick\u00e9 architektury a je podstatn\u011b vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e fas\u00e1da sv. Salv\u00e1tora? (srovnateln\u00e9 jsou fas\u00e1dy, ne v\u00fd\u0161ka fas\u00e1dy mar\u0161melonu a st\u0159echa sv. Salv\u00e1tora.) D\u016fm nevy\u010dn\u00edv\u00e1, kdy\u017e fas\u00e1da mar\u0161melounu p\u0159esahuje o 3,6m fas\u00e1du t\u011bsn\u011b p\u0159ilehl\u00e9 (vzd\u00e1lenost cca 8,5m) fas\u00e1du barokn\u00edho \u0161pit\u00e1lu sv. Judy a Tade\u00e1\u0161e? Ne\u0161kod\u00ed, kdy\u017e svou hmotou a obrovsk\u00fdm m\u011b\u0159\u00edtkem \u010dlen\u011bn\u00ed doslova drt\u00ed sousedn\u00ed jemnou barokn\u00ed fas\u00e1du \u0161pit\u00e1lu a degraduje n\u00e1rodn\u00ed kulturn\u00ed pam\u00e1tku \u2013 kl\u00e1\u0161ter sv. Ane\u017eky \u010cesk\u00e9 &#8211; na sentiment\u00e1ln\u00ed suven\u00fdr? Ne\u0161kod\u00ed, kdy\u017e brut\u00e1ln\u011b p\u0159eb\u00edj\u00ed dominanty historick\u00e9ho souboru staveb, kter\u00fd se z\u00e1zra\u010dn\u011b dochoval jako \u0161perk v panoramatu vltavsk\u00e9ho n\u00e1b\u0159e\u017e\u00ed? Ne\u0161kod\u00ed, kdy\u017e reprezentant komer\u010dn\u00edch z\u00e1jm\u016f halasn\u011b p\u0159ek\u0159ikuje symboly, se kter\u00fdmi se ztoto\u017e\u0148uje n\u00e1rod?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koment\u00e1\u0159 k tezi pana architekta Radima Vopaleck\u00e9ho<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00daprava materi\u00e1lu a barvy nespas\u00ed pochyben\u00ed v m\u011b\u0159\u00edtku, nevhodnou formu solit\u00e9ru v uli\u010dn\u00ed z\u00e1stavb\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koment\u00e1\u0159 k tezi pan\u00ed architektky Evy Ji\u0159i\u010dn\u00e9<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ten projekt nek\u0159i\u010d\u00ed do sv\u011bta, ale p\u0159ek\u0159ikuje sv\u00fdm m\u011b\u0159\u00edtkem \u2013 jak celkovou hmotnost\u00ed, tak brutalitou detail\u016f- p\u0159ilehl\u00e9 historick\u00e9 stavby, degraduje p\u0159irozen\u00e9 historick\u00e9 dominanty vz\u00e1cn\u00e9ho souboru staveb. Norm\u00e1ln\u00ed diskuze m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt vedena \u00a0pouze v prost\u0159ed\u00ed hodnotov\u00e9ho konsenzu \u2013 mus\u00ed se p\u0159ibli\u017eovat k obecn\u011b uzn\u00e1van\u00fdm hodnot\u00e1m. Takov\u00e9 prost\u0159ed\u00ed tu nen\u00ed. Zat\u00edm co se individualisticky, bez ohledu na kontext s okol\u00edm tvo\u0159\u00edc\u00ed architekti \u00a0zam\u011b\u0159uj\u00ed \u00a0na d\u016fm jako na solit\u00e9r, ve\u0159ejnost, odk\u00e1zan\u00e1 na p\u0159irozen\u00fd, geneticky dan\u00fd zp\u016fsob vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed, ve kter\u00e9 se nach\u00e1z\u00ed, vn\u00edm\u00e1 prostorov\u00e9 celky. (Prok\u00e1z\u00e1no psychoanal\u00fdzou \u2013 (gestaltismus &#8211; pol. 20.stol,, Immanuel Kant \u2013 theorie vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed 18. stol. atd.). Kontext nenach\u00e1z\u00ed, a proto protestuje. V prost\u0159ed\u00ed neomezen\u00e9 plurality n\u00e1zor\u016f bez hodnotov\u00e9ho konsenzu ztr\u00e1c\u00ed diskuze v\u00fdznam.<\/p>\n<p>Modern\u00ed architektura je v historick\u00e9m prost\u0159ed\u00ed v\u00edt\u00e1na, je dokonce v \u017eiv\u00e9m m\u011bst\u011b nezbytn\u00e1. Poda\u0159\u00ed-li se j\u00ed citliv\u011b nav\u00e1zat na okol\u00ed, respektovat prostor, do kter\u00e9ho vstupuje, potvrzuje \u017eivotnost m\u011bsta. Nen\u00ed ale pravda, \u017ee se nov\u00e1 architektura v\u017edy za\u010dlenila. M\u00e1me D\u016fm u \u010cern\u00e9 matky bo\u017e\u00ed, dnes registrovanou kulturn\u00ed pam\u00e1tku \u2013 ale je tu dopravn\u00ed dispe\u010dink Na Boji\u0161ti \u2013 trvale hyzd\u00edc\u00ed panorama novom\u011bstsk\u00e9ho svahu. M\u00e1me kr\u00e1snou budovu M\u00e1nes na n\u00e1b\u0159e\u017e\u00ed, mistrn\u011b navazuj\u00edc\u00ed na renesan\u010dn\u00ed vod\u00e1renskou v\u011b\u017e, ale i nesmyslnou novodobou z\u00e1stavbu v severn\u00edm p\u0159edpol\u00ed Vy\u0161ehradu \u2013 takov\u00fdch dvojic m\u016f\u017eeme vytvo\u0159it mnoho. M\u00e1me sv\u011btozn\u00e1m\u00e9 panor\u00e1ma Hrad\u010dan \u2013 spiritu\u00e1ln\u00ed symbol na\u0161\u00ed historie, ale konkuruje mu v pra\u017esk\u00e9m reli\u00e9fu pankr\u00e1ck\u00e1 z\u00e1stavba tup\u00fdmi hranoly byznys centra. &#8211; Nejde o sedlovou st\u0159echu, ale p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm o reli\u00e9f st\u0159e\u0161n\u00ed krajiny ur\u010dit\u00e9ho struktur\u00e1ln\u00edho celku s jednotnou charakteristikou v panoramatu \u2013 v plastick\u00e9m reli\u00e9fu Prahy s \u010detn\u00fdmi panoramatick\u00fdmi pohledy m\u016f\u017ee doj\u00edt k naru\u0161en\u00ed identity m\u011bsta \u2013 a na tu nem\u016f\u017eeme u pam\u00e1tkov\u00e9 rezervace rezignovat. Nen\u00ed p\u0159edeps\u00e1no, \u017ee je to uskute\u010dniteln\u00e9 pouze plochou st\u0159echou. Je to ot\u00e1zka m\u011b\u0159\u00edtka dan\u00e9 struktury a zp\u016fsobu, jak\u00fdm se vyrovn\u00e1v\u00e1 s prostorem. Odvodn\u011bn\u00ed je z\u00e1le\u017eitost jin\u00e9 kategorie.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koment\u00e1\u0159 k tezi pana architekta Jirana<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Krom\u011b marn\u00e9 nad\u011bje na mo\u017enost zlep\u0161en\u00ed zm\u011bnou om\u00edtky souhlas\u00edme se v\u0161\u00edm. M\u011b\u0159\u00edtkov\u00e9 pochyben\u00ed je tak z\u00e1sadn\u00ed, \u017ee materi\u00e1l, barva apod. nic nevy\u0159e\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koment\u00e1\u0159 k tezi pan\u00ed architekty Karol\u00edny Reslerov\u00e9<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>s hodnocen\u00edm mar\u0161melounu m\u016f\u017eeme jen souhlasit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koment\u00e1\u0159 k tezi pana architekta Petra V\u00e1gnera<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u0161em zde uveden\u00fdmi omyly jsme se zab\u00fdvali v\u00fd\u0161e \u2013 nem\u00e1 smysl se opakovat. O opr\u00e1vn\u011bnosti novostaveb nikdo nepochybuje. Stavba, p\u0159evy\u0161uj\u00edc\u00ed tak v\u00fdrazn\u011b p\u0159ilehl\u00e9 dominanty nek\u0159i\u010d\u00ed, ona doslova \u0159ve.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z\u00e1v\u011br<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tolik oce\u0148ovan\u00e9 spojen\u00ed star\u00e9 a nov\u00e9 z\u00e1stavby v na\u0161ich historick\u00fdch m\u011bstech vznikalo intuitivn\u011b do konce 19. stolet\u00ed na z\u00e1klad\u011b samoz\u0159ejm\u00e9ho dodr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed dominantn\u00edho postaven\u00ed prostoru n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed a ulic. Do konce 19. stolet\u00ed nov\u011b vstupuj\u00edc\u00ed architektura \u2013 by\u0165 v jin\u00e9m architektonick\u00e9m slohu \u2013 nep\u0159ek\u0159ikovala, nepotla\u010dovala star\u0161\u00ed z\u00e1stavbu, ale spolupracovala s n\u00ed na celistvosti prostoru, do kter\u00e9ho vstupovala. Bohu\u017eel, n\u011bkter\u00e1 tzv. modern\u00ed architektura individualistick\u00fdm pojet\u00edm sv\u00e9 role vstupuje do star\u00e9ho prostoru jako konkurent t\u011bch ostatn\u00edch, sna\u017e\u00ed se upoutat pozornost na \u00fakor jednoty celku. Bohu\u017eel, takto pracuj\u00edc\u00ed architekti si neuv\u011bdomuj\u00ed, \u017ee ni\u010d\u00ed samu podstatu hodnoty historick\u00e9ho m\u011bsta. Smyslem stavby historick\u00fdch m\u011bst byly prostory, ne fyzick\u00e1 podstata dom\u016f. Jen tak m\u016f\u017ee vzniknout prost\u0159ed\u00ed, ve kter\u00e9m je n\u00e1m dob\u0159e, proto jsou historick\u00e1 m\u011bsta trvale p\u0159\u00edta\u017eliv\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div data-counters='1' data-style='square' data-size='regular' data-url='https:\/\/obcanskymonitoring.cz\/?p=4860' data-title='Arch. \u0160v\u00e1bov\u00e1 &#8211; Architekti o \u201eMar\u0161melounu\u201c: Opravdu hrozn\u00e9. 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